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Just because you where unlucky enough to fall in love with - say - an irish woman that doesnt want to leave the island (I'm assuming there are those mythtical creatures? ) doesnt mean you have to become irish or leave your wife, no?
Don't worry, most of them will be heading your way soon!
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I have no real problem with immigrants in my country. Provided they obey the local laws and pay their taxes, I'm happy. I don't think people should be forced to adopt local customs by any means - some foreign customs are actually interesting and beneficial.

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I didn't immigrate. Just staying awhile.
Yes there is a difference between "immigrants" and "expats"
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There is what? 30 million adult unemployed in Europe and the combined national debts are many trillions of £££s

Europe neither needs or can afford more third world immigration.
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Pretty sure you all saw the xenophobia meted out to the Zimbabweans, mostly, but also other nationals down here a few years ago? same arguments were made against them too. All I saw was so called civilised humans targeting another, using whatever excuse necessary to justify their acts.

There is no place on this little planet for homogeneous countries anymore, sorry to say. Also, in our evolution, we have adopted morals, which many will say are what make us weak, but it is this compassion for fellow humans that separates us from animals, although, there is a hippo in Kenya who does her damnedest to show compassion to any stray calf or youngster who may get washed downstream, so maybe hippos are evolving also, who knows, but thats off topic!

To narrowly identify immigrants as the problem of any social disease is narrow minded and idiotic.
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To narrowly identify immigrants as the problem of any social disease is narrow minded and idiotic.
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There is what? 30 million adult unemployed in Europe and the combined national debts are many trillions of £££s
There is probably about the same level of unemployment in many parts of Africa; if there wasn't, why would people be coming to Europe?
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There is probably about the same level of unemployment in many parts of Africa; if there wasn't, why would people be coming to Europe?
The most highly educated group of people in the UK are black Africans. How can it be good for Africa if the west keep taking their best brains?
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The most highly educated group of people in the UK are black Africans. How can it be good for Africa if the west keep taking their best brains?
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Hi Gooner

Sadly its the age old chicken & egg syndrome for well educated black Africans.

They are drawn away with the promise of a better standard of living, working with cutting edge technologies. Also the political instability and possible persecution by those with more strident views may well see them as part of the intellectual elite, and thus be targeted-as such people have been through history-hence leaving the country devoid of the critical human infrastructre it needs to grow and develop.

Another aspect is the active pursuit by western countries of professionals to fill the skills gaps which for one reason or another the host country is unable to fill.

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By the way, we've had this discussion before.
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the less foreigners,the better,because they refuse to adapt and I will refuse to adapt to them .
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Then you and the hard-cases on the other side of the fence would seem to get along swimmingly, given your common predelictions. Sort of deserving of oneother...
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I disagree that is only the case with recent immigrants. Also you seem to skip over the fact there are two kinds of immigrants, within Europe and from outside. BTW never heard many complaints about immigrants from East Asia for example.
What is there to complain about?
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Pretty sure you all saw the xenophobia meted out to the Zimbabweans, mostly, but also other nationals down here a few years ago? same arguments were made against them too. All I saw was so called civilised humans targeting another, using whatever excuse necessary to justify their acts.

There is no place on this little planet for homogeneous countries anymore, sorry to say. Also, in our evolution, we have adopted morals, which many will say are what make us weak, but it is this compassion for fellow humans that separates us from animals, although, there is a hippo in Kenya who does her damnedest to show compassion to any stray calf or youngster who may get washed downstream, so maybe hippos are evolving also, who knows, but thats off topic!

To narrowly identify immigrants as the problem of any social disease is narrow minded and idiotic.
I said it before and I will say it Brother, genius has its limits but stupidy knows no boundaries. Well said!
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