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Richard I and the Excaliber

Never mind the sale pitch, 400$ + is way to much for a replica, but the following article is worthy,


King Richard the Lionhearted , the second Plantagenet king of England, was born September 8, 1157 and ascended the throne of England on July 6, 1189 and ruled until his death April 6, 1199. Known also as Richard I of England, he also ruled as Duke of Normandy, Duke of Aquitaine, Duke of Gascony, Lord of Ireland, Lord of Cyprus, Count of Anjou, Count of Maine, Count of Nantes and Overlord of Brittany at various times.

At age 16, Prince Richard was already commanding his own army, putting down rebellions in Poitou against his father, King Henry II. Richard became known as Coeur de Lion or, Richard the Lionheart, even before his accession, at the beginning of the Third Crusade when Philip of France was compared with a lamb and Richard with a lion. He convinced his officers in Winchester, around the "Round Table" of having belonged to king Arthur's legend and possessing the magic sword "Excalibur". King Richard the Lion Heart was a central Christian commander during the Third Crusade, effectively leading the campaign after the departure of Philip Augustus, and scoring considerable victories against his Muslim counterpart, Saladin.

While the "absent king" spent very little time in his Kingdom, preferring to use it as a source of revenue to support his armies, King Richard the Lion Hearted was a generous knight and a wise politician, but above all a great soldier. His own personal ability was a source of inspiration for his men in battle and he was a beloved hero of his subjects. King Richard the LionHearted remains one of the very few Kings of England remembered by his epithet, not number, and is an enduring, iconic figure in England.


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The question is, did Richard I carry the Excalibur?
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Since Excalibur is entirely mythical I doubt it - its a fairy story!
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Since Excalibur is entirely mythical I doubt it - its a fairy story!
It has not been proven that Excalibur was a mythical sword, has it. Now Im not saying that the Excalibur could perform super powers..what can be said is we can not say that King Arthur was not real, one can not rule out King Arthur being a real person therefore the sword Excalibur could be out there somewhere.

In any event the Excalibur and King Arthur serve as a great inspiration to the world.
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It has not been proven that Excalibur was a mythical sword, has it. Now Im not saying that the Excalibur could perform super powers..what can be said is we can not say that King Arthur was not real, one can not rule out King Arthur being a real person therefore the sword Excalibur could be out there somewhere.

In any event the Excalibur and King Arthur serve as a great inspiration to the world.
Where was it ever stated that Excalibur was a REAL sword?

You have to actually have the claim before you can have the debate.
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Where was it ever stated that Excalibur was a REAL sword?

You have to actually have the claim before you can have the debate.
Indeed it is not even proven that Arthur was real rather than a conglomeration of myths. SJ is as the North British would put it 'awa with the oil'
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Indeed it is not even proven that Arthur was real rather than a conglomeration of myths. SJ is as the North British would put it 'awa with the oil'
Dunno about the North British, but we'd say, "Awa' wi' the fairies." If we wanted to be polite.
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Richard the Lionheart had good looks on his side - no doubt about that. In an age when most men were about 5ft 6ins in height he was tall - around 6ft 4ins which is remarkable for the time, red haired, handsome of face and with the 'physique of a Knight', in his prime ... (although struggling with obesity in later life if the historical accounts are to be believed).

He was also completely fearless. A killer in fact. As that great Confederate general Nathan Bedford Forrest would say - "war means fighting and fighting means killing" - and it seems that centuries before, Richard the Lionheart was of the same mind. But in Richard's case it was done under the banner of Christian Crusade.

He was the archetypal Medieval warrior king - he captured the imagination of his age and continues to do so ever since - to some.

While I agree he was a 'great soldier' ... I don't agree he was a 'generous knight and a wise politician'. Far from it. He was quite frankly a lousy king - who preferred to be off fighting than taking care of his country and his people.

In many ways, Richard is as much a myth as Arthur (although I for one don't doubt that Arthur lived).

Many Medieval kings were obsessed with the Arthurian fable. Henry VII even named his eldest son Arthur. Had he not died as a teenager and his younger brother Henry VIII succeeded the throne then England would indeed have had a real King Arthur and a 'Celtic' one at that (from the Tudor line).

Do I believe a single word of this Excalibur nonsense? Not for a second.

Nor am I persuaded by the myth of Richard the Lionheart - but that's a whole other thread.

And if you want to look to a real 'enduring, iconic figure in England.' then look no further than Alfred the Great - without question the greatest of all the English Kings. Any Englishman or woman who wants to look back and admire a King of courage, determination, vision and intelligence should look no further than Alfred.

Richard isn't fit to shine his shoes quite frankly and made no real impact on the fortunes or history of this island.
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Richard the Lionheart had good looks on his side - no doubt about that. In an age when most men were about 5ft 6ins in height he was tall - around 6ft 4ins which is remarkable for the time, red haired, handsome of face and with the 'physique of a Knight', in his prime ... (although struggling with obesity in later life if the historical accounts are to be believed).

He was also completely fearless. A killer in fact. As that great Confederate general Nathan Bedford Forrest would say - "war means fighting and fighting means killing" - and it seems that centuries before, Richard the Lionheart was of the same mind. But in Richard's case it was done under the banner of Christian Crusade.

He was the archetypal Medieval warrior king - he captured the imagination of his age and continues to do so ever since - to some.

While I agree he was a 'great soldier' I don't agree he was a 'generous knight and a wise politician'. Far from it. He was quite frankly a lousy king - who preferred to be off fighting than taking care of his country and his people.

In many ways, Richard is as much a myth as Arthur (although I for one don't doubt that Arthur lived).

Many Medieval kings were obsessed with the Arthurian myth. Henry VII even named his eldest son Arthur. Had he not died as a teenager and his younger brother Henry VIII succeeded the throne then England would indeed have had a real King Arthur and a 'Celtic' one at that (from the Tudor line).

Do I believe a single word of this Excalibur nonsense? Not for a second.

Nor am I persuaded by the myth of Richard the Lionheart - but that's a whole other thread.

And if you want to look to a real 'enduring, iconic figure in England.' then look no further than Alfred the Great - without question the greatest of all the English Kings. Any Englishman or woman who wants to look back and admire a King of courage, determination, vision and intelligence should look no further than Alfred.

Richard isn't fit to shine his shoes quite frankly and made no real impact on the fortunes or history of this island.
He was a psychopath who bankrupted the country and threw away most of its French possessions through incompetency. His one area of competency was siege warfare.
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He was a psychopath who bankrupted the country and threw away most of its French possessions through incompetency. His one area of competency was siege warfare.
You only need to look to his mother - a remarkable woman who I admire hugely in all other respects (I even named my daughter after her) but as a wife and a mother she was a dismal failure.

Richard was the product of his mother. Psychopathic tendencies possibly, narcissistic tendencies - unquestionably, fanned by the adoration of the woman who gave birth to him.
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Is it true that England's first King Dick batted for the other team?
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Is it true that England's first King Dick batted for the other team?
I don't necessarily think he batted for the other team.

I think he was probably what you might call 'asexual'.

His whole preoccupation seems to have been the Crusades, but I don't believe it was religious fervour that drove him as much as the actual business of 'fighting and killing'.

I think he was a killer. I think he was a narcissistic mummy's boy. I don't think he was homosexual although I do think he preferred the company of men - but then his mother might have had a lot to do with that.

If you want to find out more about Richard .. then read a biography of his mother .. and then you start to get the picture.
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Born in Oxford on 8th September 1157, the third son of Henry II, and, as such, never expected to succeed to the English throne. History has glamorised his reign, endowing it with an air of romance and chivalry as epitomised by his statue outside the Houses of Parliament.


Another description could be that of absentee warlord, forever seeking to expand his rule through the force of arms and spending only six months of his ten year rule in England. His undoubted military prowess earned him the title of Lionheart in Europe, while in the East, mothers would threaten their children with his Arabic name Melec Ric - “King Ric”.

He was recorded as a handsome figure, 6’5” tall with the fair hair and blue eyes of the Plantagenets. He was a bright scholar and a talented linguist; he could make jokes in Latin and recite poetry in French and Provencal. A man of some intelligence and insight, he realised that there was more to successful warfare than just being skilled in arms.

Despite his marriage to Berengaria of Navarre, he may have been homosexual ... There are however, other references to his appetite for young girls, described by one contemporary as “voracious, even on his death bed”.

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Well he was an Aquitanian. HIS lands were in the south of France. So from RI's perspective he probable WAS taking the utmost care of his lands and people — they just weren't on the British isles.
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Well he was an Aquitanian. HIS lands were in the south of France. So from RI's perspective he probable WAS taking the utmost care of his lands and people — they just weren't on the British isles.
Probably true enough.
Despite his battlefield heroics he was a truly only a nominal king as far as England was concerned.He probably spent less time and exhibited less interest in his realm than any other monarch, before or since.
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More about the suggestion that he was gay in this article, which also talks about Richard's 'addiction to Battle' and his 'fearlessness'

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The first suggestions that Richard may have been gay appeared in 1948.

Yet John Gillingham, distinguished author of three biographies of Richard, does not believe that he was gay.

He says the notion arose because Richard ignored for many years his betrothed, Alys, sister of Philippe of France, who lived at his mother's court. When he finally married Berengaria of Navarre, they lived apart and had no children. It was a dynastic marriage, designed to protect his southern borders against the counts of Toulouse.


https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...-addict-france
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